Kip Berman is heart and soul of The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart. The band’s fourth studio album is just about to be released and Kip is currently touring the world, having just recently left Europe after a bunch of gigs, including a beautiful night at Oslo, London, where we had such a great night (read here!). We had the pleasure to have a chat with Kip, and talk through his career, his life, his dreams and that little miracle – called fatherhood – that is changing the angle he sees the world from.
That’s actually a good point. So how all of the above resonates with the forthcoming ‘The Echo Of Pleasure’?
“To me, ‘The Echo Of Pleasure’ is the near-symmetry of love. It’s the reflection back and forth, modulating over time, of two people who are together”
The lead single ‘Anymore’ sounds to me smooth and honest at the same time. I would describe it as a sweet message of love. What’s behind this track and its atmospheres?
“Perhaps it’s a test of the listener’s vantage point, like an audio Rorschach test. Does ‘I wanted to die with you’ mean you want to spend the entirety of your life with someone, or that the time you spend with that person makes you want to die. To me, at least, it’s about a love that is extreme in its wonder and terror.”
What happened, then?
Just out of curiosity, I’ve read you originally started playing with your best friends at… a party. Did it all started just for fun or do you recall now you had some inkling of being a band before that?
“I want to let my daughter know that it’s important to do things of worth with your life, even if they seem unlikely”
“I want to let her [my daughter] know that it’s important to do things of worth with your life, even if they seem unlikely. I don’t know if I’ll be able to tour as much, but If anything I feel more motivated than ever to try to do great things – not for my own ego but to show her that her dad is somebody, that he’s doing better than he did before. And I’m not even talking in this money way, but to show her that her life makes my life better, that she opens up more inspiration and possibility. I don’t want her to see some lazy has-been chilling on the couch, sorting out the liner notes to re-issues. However, it’s also important for me to be home with her as much as possible because no amount of artistic success (whatever that means) is more important than being with her. I will be happiest when this tour is over and we can all be together again.”
Is there a track, out of your production, you would never leave out of a setlist when playing live? Actually, you can pick three.
“I love Lorde. She’s different, she’s brilliant and she’s the kind of artist that makes you realize everything you’ve done isn’t good enough, but also makes you want to do better”
“I’m actually not one of those full-throated “poptimist” types (though there is much in the worldview I agree with) – but I love Lorde. She’s different, she’s brilliant and she’s the kind of artist that makes you realize everything you’ve done isn’t good enough, but also makes you want to do better. I’m consistently amazed by the music she makes, the person she is, and the confidence she possesses – and small vulnerabilities she reveals. Her music is moving in a way I don’t often feel. I kind of just want to shake her hand, i know that sounds silly. She’s thoroughly a wonder, and she doesn’t need me to say that – she is herself, and that’s a wonderful thing to be. The new Beach Fossils record is good too. Anton who used to play drums in our band played drums on it – and also, the new Frankie Rose record (we’re on tour with her) should be good when it’s released later this summer. The songs she is playing live from it are wonderful.”
Thank you so much for your time, Kip. I’m looking forward to listening to your new album!